Miss Fanelli wrote:
Hello, I’m looking for any help I can find in possibly identifying what I think to be an Italian Nursery rhyme/ paddy cake game my Grandfather used to play with us kids. Our family has long since been uprooted from Italy, but being the eldest granddaughter I have felt responsible for holding onto what traditions we could. Now as I’m about to wed and most of my friends are having babies I realize we’ve lost something here. Anything you can think of would be great, places to look for more information, names of traditional paddy-cake style games that Italians play, anything at all would be much appreciated. The following is what I remember.
When I was younger my Grandfather would play a version of ‘paddy-cake’ with me. He would take my hands into his, and while reciting some poetry (of what might very well have been gibberish), he would move my hands so that I caressed my cheeks, then I would caress his. Back and forth he would move my hands until a part in this ‘poem’ where he would say “Ah no!”, at this part my hands would always land on his face – followed by a line where he would say “Ah gooy gooy gooy gooygooy!” and I would wind up gently patting myself on the cheeks. As a child the delight was that I could never win; if my hands where over his this time, or if we started on his cheeks instead of mine, I was always the one getting my cheeks patted.
My Grandfather was Italian and from what I know his Grandfather was the one to move our family to the states from Italy. As I said above this might just be a poem in gibberish, but my father and members of his generation believe it might have been an Italian nursery rhyme about a little mouse. We have no clue as to the spelling of any of this so for the moment I’ll take my best shot at it phonetically. It sounds like this…
Ah moo-zha-zhill.
Ah-gazhty- a- ta
Ah-goosh-ti-ta.
Ah- ya-tia-ta.
Ah no
ah gooy gooy gooy gooy gooyLike I said this is a rough English phonetic spelling of something that as far as I know was in Italian. Then again Grandpa made it harder still by always changing the words or adding a line or two so that I always wound up clapping my own face. The long and short of it is this is about all I know…. any suggestions?
Thank you for your time
Miss Genevieve C. Fanelli
If anyone can help with this nursery rhyme, or if you have any suggestions to help find it, please comment below.
Thanks!
-Mama Lisa
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September 9th, 2015 at 3:01 am
Correction :
Mesh a Michelle
Cat a catelle
Pana cazelle
Ah May nu merod
Mesha mesha mesha mesha
September 9th, 2015 at 3:04 am
Fix:
Meesha Michelle
Cat a catelle
A May nu merod
Meesha mesha meesha.
( left out a line) lol
December 12th, 2015 at 5:48 am
My grandmother used to say this while stroking our palms (unsure of spelling):
Ma nina beya
Fata peneya
Obidi bengata
Gati, gati, gati (while tickling the hand).
Can anyone help me with this?
December 12th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
I found the rhyme below here. This is Friulan dialect:
Adult: “Manìna bèla, fata pinèla, induà sòtu stàda?”
Child: “Ulà da la nòna”
Adult: “E se ti àia dàt?”
Child: “Polènta e làt”…
Adult: ”Gàti, gàti, gàtiiii”
Translation
Adult: “Beautiful hand, perfectly made, where have you been?”
Child: “At grandma’s”
Adult: “What did she give you?”
Child: “Polenta and milk”…
Adult: ”Gàti, gàti, gàtiiii”
I haven’t the faintest idea of what “obidi bengata” may mean
January 19th, 2016 at 3:03 am
I don’t know the Italian but it sounded like this and involved a cow and it asked the cow where it was going.. Phonetically: Moosha Mushella, atta tella, a do si guda, che sa vaca fruita di vaca!!
January 21st, 2016 at 12:47 am
Mousche ma shell
Pane ca shell
Pane ricott
Tooflabut tooflabut tooflabut
There’s my phonetic version of MamaLena’ s little song
And for the first 3 lines was nice stroking of the face and there’s little pats on the cheeks for those last three words
I was told later by a relative a translation as follows
Nice Kittycat
Bread and cheese
Bread and ricotta
Patticake, Patticake, Patticake.
January 31st, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Back in the 50s my Pop Pop said something like:
Mooshay, mooshay, (rubbed my head) bonna mooshay, rubbed my face) bonna de gut (tickled my tummy)
Spell check hated that!
April 24th, 2016 at 10:52 am
I was born in italy and sang our version with my children….spelling probably incorrect looked it up as i wanted to embroidery it on a blanket for my first grandchild.
Mish mishelle
Gatto gatille
Che te si mangiato sa sera
Pane e chicillo
Mish mish mish mish
– -kitty kitten
Cat catty
What did u eat tonight
Bread and meat
Mish mish mish mish
May 2nd, 2016 at 7:36 pm
I hope this conversation is still active— I’m looking for an Italian children’s song that caresses the checks too, but it begins with the letter P. I don’t have a clue about the spelling, but I remember the n sounding like a spanish n. It was something like Piedeñya. Driving me crazy.
September 17th, 2016 at 4:38 pm
I remember this game well but can’t remember another one. My mother was from Naples region and father from Rome. My dad would take my hand and stroke it while saying “cui c’e una Bella ragazza..” It also had the words “pane” and (phonetically) “cachine”. It ended very similarly to the mooshi endings but there was no tapping of the faces. Does anyone know this? It’s driving me crazy. My parents have both passed and my daughters only remember the first line like I do.
Thanks.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:09 am
Please let me know if you know this. Thanks.
October 9th, 2016 at 9:50 pm
OK – very similar experiences as all of the above but my Mum from near Benevento used to say this ( phonetically) whilst stroking cheeks:
Carits
Mooshits
Watil
Watone
(Then patting cheeks..)
Bechiafony Bechiafony Bechaifony
😂😂😂
October 1st, 2017 at 12:53 pm
This is a shot in the dark but I found this thread trying to decipher something similar my great-grandfather (Italian) did with me, and now my dad does it with my kids.
He slowly strokes their cheeks, saying (and this is how it sounds, phonetically):
moo-zi ah
pan-tay la
kiss-ah mangia (“eat,” I know this part!)
inesette (maybe?)
pan-che pet
frushna frushna cay-nay-na-vey! (this part is faster than the rest)
Any ideas what the translation is in English? Or even what the real Italian words are?
February 24th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
How funny! I was trying to find the translation of an Italian thing my dad would do and his granny cerone would do to him as a child. They were from Calabria/Muro Lucano. My dad would caress my face from forehead to chin saying “michell-a-mia” a few times then lightly slap saying “ah ah ah”. I do it now with my children and they love it and anticipate the ah ah ah tap with tons of laughter! It sounds like it may have been originally something from here but a little changed through generations. Sound similar to anyone? Gracie!
September 3rd, 2018 at 3:12 pm
in the Catanzaro province of Calabria, the kids’ cat song goes like this (phonetically)…while you caress a child’s cheeks slowly and then get faster…
Moosharija
ti mangiasti u’ pescecheju
perchi a mia non me ne dasti?
Brutticheju, Brutticheju, Brutticheju!!!!
translation:
Little cat,
you ate the little fish,
why didn’t you give me any?
Ugly, ugly, ugly!
:-)
October 18th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
I learned it this way
Moosha musheel
Gato gateel
Que hai mangiato
Pan e quesil
E non mi hai dato niente?
Moosha moosha moosha
It’s about a cat who ate bread and cheese and didn’t share it
All said while patting child’s cheeks
January 9th, 2019 at 8:43 am
I just searched for this. My father was from Crucole in Calabria, Italy. He used to do this to me as a small child. I am surprised by so many versions! How wonderful that other experienced this wonderful bonding game. I always think of my father fondly when I remember it. I remember the tune he used but never knew the words. Thank you all for contributing all this information.
February 5th, 2019 at 11:41 am
I’m so thankful I found this site! I have such wonderful memories of sitting on my grandpas lap while he sang that to me. Now I know why he nicknamed me “Pussycat:” I couldn’t be happier right at this moment!
February 25th, 2019 at 4:50 am
My response is totally phonetic! My grandparents were from Cansano, Italy. So here it goes; in English phonetics:
Moo Jhay ott; a pan a chach; a pan a vin, a la cantin, a zay bambene, a whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh. whoosh!
The Italian spelling is atrocious, yet this is what I remember hearing!
May 24th, 2019 at 9:22 pm
Lisa’s response back in October 2007 is spot on accurate. (Micio Miagolio)
My Grandpa, from Benevento, used to do that with me over 60 years ago.
January 21st, 2020 at 11:53 pm
Hi everyone,
My grandparents are from Abruzzo, Italy and always used to do this rhyme. I saw that everyone has different versions but ours is:
Moosha Moosha Mia
Che cosa mangiavi ieri sera?
Pane e pera
Mooshy Mooshy Mooshy Mooshy
Translated:
My Moosha Moosha
What did you eat last night?
Bread and pears
Mooshy Mooshy Mooshy Mooshy
April 17th, 2020 at 6:27 pm
My Neapolitan nonna would say this nursery rhyme to me and my siblings. Phonetically it sounded like this:
Moosha moosheel ( motions of rubbing our cheeks)
Gatta gatt’deel (cat, little cat)
O mio du sta? (Where are you hiding?)
In the bottaseel (In the little boot)
In the bottaseel
shesh shesh shesh ( Supposedly the cat jumps out of the boot and the motion is scratching our face)
June 3rd, 2020 at 9:42 pm
I remember my father doing this!!
My parents were from Colosimi, Cosenza.
What I remember is a little different.
Of course this phonetically (Sorry) but I thought It started out with,
“Vashoots, vashoots, (cat in dialect?) or maybe it was mashoots
A dove sta? (Where did u go?)
De a nan (to grandma’s?)
Qui t’a da? (What did you do?)
…and I can’t remember the rest!!
Anyone ?
November 1st, 2020 at 1:40 am
My mum had a Molise version, similar actions to what many of you described. The words were…
Mush, Machin
Pane E formagin
Pane E ricotta
Zubba zubba la Botta.
To translate I only really new the middle lines, bread and cheese, bread and ricotta.
February 27th, 2021 at 9:00 pm
My Nana and Papa from Calabria did something similar:
Phonetically:
Mizzah Michelle (my Michelle)
Katzahtelle (Little Kitten)
Dozah stazah (where are you going?)
Dozah bredeh (to see the priest)
Kay deh dadda (what does he have?)
Panne e cotta (bread and cheese).
The last line was the same as someone above stated, but I only remember the english traslation:
Will you give me some?
No!
If anyone knows the last line in phonetic dialect, please send it to me.
sdonatello@ameritech.net
March 5th, 2021 at 5:10 am
I am so excited that I found this page. I just became a grandma and was thinking back to when my dad did this little game to me and my son. Although I only remember him saying 4 words before the patting of my cheeks I am sure all regions in Italy have their own version. It’s beautiful that we all have these great memories of our relatives. I have been brushing up on my nursery rhymes and wanted to hand down my dad’s version,. Here it goes..spelled phonetically.
Moosheel
Lateel
Pane
Rigot
Boogety boogety boogety.
I am curious if anyone else heard this version. The family is from San Bartolomeo in Galdo in Campania near Naples. I will definitely be coming back to this page. No matter if we find the correct way to say the rhyme or not, it’s the fun we will have with our children and grandchildren. Singing and playing in person not on a phone or video.
March 26th, 2021 at 5:16 am
I thought about this tonight and I thought I would never find it. I found this first try. I just wanted to cry because my Mom is not with us anymore for me to ask her about it. My Grandma had been gone for several years. It’s a fond memory. I hardly remember any of it. But I do remember my grandmother doing this and I always got a kick out of it. I always asked her to do it. I’m not realizing it’s about a cat. I wonder if she did this because she knew I love cats . Ty all for sharing❤️
March 28th, 2021 at 1:49 pm
I don’t know correct spelling: Moosha moushella, atta tella, a dO se gooda, che sa vacca, fruita da vacca!
It’s something like little one where did you go, to find the cow etc
August 6th, 2021 at 12:30 am
My mother’s family (maiden name Marie Antoinette Anello) was from Catanzaro. My father’s family (Philip Ernest Montano) was from Reggio Calabria. I have been searching for information on this poem as well. Our version is Mushadisha, Dostajestabeshadesh, Mini Mini Minash, Mush, Mush Mush. I know the spelling is all wrong and I have no idea what it means. You take your hands and cup the child’s face at each word at the end you cup your hands and gently tap the child’s cheeks!!! Any ideas:):):)
September 14th, 2021 at 4:36 pm
So the Nonna holds the childs hands while caressing first the child’s face then Nonna’s face while saying the below. The last sentence is the one whose face gets smacked by the two caressing hands.
Mosch, Moschella (pronounded Moesh Moeshella) (Kitty Kitty)
Dove sei stata? (Where have you been)
Dalla Nonnina (To Nonna)
Cosa ti ha dato (What did she give you)
Un Biscottino (A biscuit)
Dove lai messo (Where did u put it?)
Ecolo qua (Here it is)
I’m so excited also to have come across this site. I am an Italian South African. Nonna was captured as a prisoner of war in North Africa and brought to South Africa as a prisoner of war. Family relocated to South Africa. SALUTE
June 22nd, 2022 at 11:48 am
Wow … what a treasure trove I found while googling for my own family’s version of this little rhyme. Here is how I remember it, with the translation from my Napolitano grandmother and some phonetic spellings. Pretty sure that ending part was created by my great-grandmother, an American immigrant who loathed Stalin. The legend is that she visited family in Italy before the US joined the war and taught them how to say “son-of-a-bitch fascists”! Anyway, the rhyme:
Muzh e Muzhelle (A cat and a dog)
Pane e cazelle (bread and cheese)
Tutti mangi (you ate it all)
Nunca per mi (nothing for me) Yes, I know that’s not the Italian word for nothing, probably a dialect?)
Perche o fascite? (why, you fascist?)
With the first four lines, you lightly stroke the baby’s cheeks; on the last line, you do the motion of slapping the baby’s cheek!
The other funny thing is that as an adult learning Italian, I never understood the word “cazelle” representing cheese. I just googled it and found that cazelle is indeed a cheese … from the French Pyrenees! Could there possibly be a connection? Or any other ideas on what “cazelle” might be?